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Postby bitsian003 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:38 am

i'm totally with you on this.....
are they out of their minds???? how can they do that???? and they say indians are stupid.... :x
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Postby bitsian003 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:41 am

i'm sorry for the late reply... i woke up an hour ago... and dozed off on my laptop... very good morning to u... [If u happen to be from east 8)]...
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Postby mothermary » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:47 am

yet people will keep fighting for it just like in the Kitzmiller vs. Dover case.
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Postby bitsian003 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:50 am

hmmm....
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Postby bitsian003 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:56 am

teaching that at schools would be like "ok students some damn thing created us... so all that u study is junk... let's take day off"

but i think court has ordereed that ID should no longer be teached at any AMERICAN school...?? didn't they stop that yet????
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Re: evolution debate

Postby skeptic » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:03 am

Intelligent Design is a religious theory, and should be taught as part of Religious Studies. If people try to include it in Science, that is a lie, and religious people are not supposed to tell lies.

And no, intelligent design is not possible. The sheer weight of empirical evidence for evolution is simply too great. The probability of the whole concept being wrong is vanishingly small. Some ID people try to present it as 'guided evolution'. That is rather harder to refute, but if true, would not require natural selection as a mechanism. And the evidence is strongly in favour of natural selection.
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Postby mothermary » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:37 pm

I myself only believe in evolution, because of the pure proof of it. I on the other hand have no right nor do you to tell someone that there is no creator. That is there right to believe, we have no right to tell them there wrong just like they shouldn't be putting down evolution. My whole point is that it shouldn't be taught in schools.
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Postby mothermary » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:42 pm

yes they ruled against that. The fight on the other hand is still raging on. While i was looking at books on evolution in the library i opened the book and found a pamplet saying that i was sinning for looking at evolution from evidencebible.com. I couldn't believe that someone would go to the library find these books and paste something like this inside. If i want to read about evolution I shouldn't have creationism shoved in my face.
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Postby Jillo725 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:48 pm

I think that evolution should be taught but I do not believe that evolution proves God doesn't exist.

People who are religious are simply afraid of someone proving them wrong, and that makes them angry. Just like if a scientist was proven wrong when he believes himself completely.

Religion is based on faith. Therefore, nothing should be able to sway religious people from their beliefs. I do not think that people are "stupid" because they are afraid of what they don't understand. Evolution should be explained in complete detail to everyone, so that everyone can see the validity in the theory and how it doesn't pertain to God's existence.
"There is no adequate defense, except stupidity, against the impact of a new idea."
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Re: evolution debate

Postby skeptic » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:11 pm

The reality of evolution does not, in fact, prove there is no creator. There is no reason why some deity may not have created the universe, or even created life. However, the evidence strongly indicates that life, once it exists, changed by evolution through natural selection. The origin of the universe and abiogenesis are totally different issues, and evolution's reality is not relevent to that separate discussion.
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Re: evolution debate

Postby Jillo725 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:16 pm

skeptic wrote:The reality of evolution does not, in fact, prove there is no creator. There is no reason why some deity may not have created the universe, or even created life. However, the evidence strongly indicates that life, once it exists, changed by evolution through natural selection. The origin of the universe and abiogenesis are totally different issues, and evolution's reality is not relevent to that separate discussion.



agreed!!!
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Postby bitsian003 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:36 am

"The reality of evolution does not, in fact, prove there is no creator."
yup!!!
intelligent design talks of creation not evolution for evolution to occur, initially there has to be creation... ID is totally different from evolution....
this debate goes nowhere.... b'cuz none of us can provide proofs for what we believe... when we talk about nature we cannot perfectly define what nature is.. we may say rules... but how did the rules come into existence.... then again some 1 may say the rules or by God... how can he prove that???

Science is what we believe it to be... there are people who believe supernatural... Both are the same... the first kind don't care about why it[science] is the way it is..they use it for benefit. the second care about only the past[about source]. and leaves the rest.... these two sects will keep fighting for the rest of eternity...
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