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Re: Inter species breeding with fertile offspring

Postby telanerv » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:20 pm

Gamila you can't just say "Blank's theory was shown to be false, therefore...."
when you talk about fundamental science

why don't you spread your born-again /psychobabbble-disinformation to a crowd that is vulnerable like middle schoolers, you guys used to be great at that.
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Postby gamila » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:53 am

Gamila you can't just say "Blank's theory was shown to be false, therefore...."
when you talk about fundamental science


fact is natural selection was falsified
but that was not the end of natural selection
thus there is no scientific method
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Postby papa1983 » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:09 am

He don't even think science is real. Jets use faith to fly.
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Postby gamila » Sat Jul 25, 2009 7:05 am

He don't even think science is real. Jets use faith to fly.


you cant prove that the laws of physics will be the same tommorow
your belief that they will be is based solely on faith
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Postby papa1983 » Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:27 am

Negative, the belief that the laws of physics will be the same tomorrow is base on knowledge from observations and verification thru experimentation.
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Postby gamila » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:04 am

Negative, the belief that the laws of physics will be the same tomorrow is base on knowledge from observations and verification thru experimentation.


sorry
it is just based on faith

these observations experimentation and knowledge
are all of past or current but not fuiure events
all they prove is at the time of the observation or experiment the laws of physic where the same as prior to the observation etc
sorry
physics cant look into the future as yet
you me and even physicists cant see into the future
we can postulate but that is not a fact till it happens

as such
you cant prove that the laws of physics will be the same tommorow
your belief that they will be is based solely on faith

your belief that with out proof that the laws of physics will be the same tommorrow
is
just like a religious persons belief with out proof that there is a god
ie both are based on faith
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Postby biohazard » Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:48 pm

gamila wrote:sorry
it is just based on faith


biologists know what species is
so
coline leslie dean talks meaningless nonsense
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Postby papa1983 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:25 am

Gamila,

People like you bask in the glory of ignorance. How ignorance has become a virtue in your community is beyond me.

If the laws of physics were to change tomorrow, which has been sufficiently proven they will not, I assure you we would not be around tomorrow to observe them.
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Re: Inter species breeding with fertile offspring

Postby AFJ » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:07 am

this demonstrates colin leslie deans point that biology is not a science as its classificatory system ie species ends in meaningless nonsense


Then perhaps Dean can tell us what biology is. It is definitely a field of study that has researchers which have discovered many things, like DNA, and mapped out the human genome using state of the art technology. So if it isn't science, then a field of study which uses technology and has discovered real facts--helpful facts for medicine and other fields of study is not science.

fact is natural selection was falsified


All you have to do is watch two male whales sparring for breeding rights and you see NS. If you see extinction you in some cases see NS. If you death because of deleterious mutations, or disappearance of a harmful or useless trait then you see NS. But NS as a sole mechanism for evolution is wrong as it can add no new information to the genome--you are correct

I am creationist, but acknowledge Darwin's accomplishment in the theory of NS (albeit exaggerated conclusions in my opinion). He was not alone, but he was the propagator of the theory. It is speculated that Darwin read some of Edward Blythe's material, who was creationist in a time of Lamarckian evolution. He was not alone in his observations--the interpretations were different.
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Postby papa1983 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:48 am

I agree. Natural selection is not the only thing that drives evolution. You, also, have mutation for natural selection act upon.
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Postby gamila » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:15 am

which has been sufficiently proven they will not,

sorry there is no proof that the laws of physic will be the same tommorrow as they are today
just like there is no proof that you will be alive tomorrow
both are based on fairh
no one can look into the furture
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Postby gamila » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:15 am

which has been sufficiently proven they will not,

sorry there is no proof that the laws of physic will be the same tommorrow as they are today
just like there is no proof that you will be alive tomorrow
both are based on fairh
no one can look into the furture
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