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The Colin Leslie Dean species paradox

Postby gamila » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:51 pm

The Australian philosopher colin leslie dean notes a paradox in evolutionary theory
similar to the paradox of Cain in the bible

The first humans Adam and Eve gave birth to Cain and Able
so who did Cain mate with

similarly
who did the first bird mate with who did the first dog mate with

an individual of species A gives birth to a individual of the new species B so who did this new individual of new species B mate with to continue the new species


either

1)there was no one to mate with- so how did the new species B become common
or
2)a whole lot of species A gave birth toa whole lot of new individuals of species B at the same time so that these new individual members of species B could mate together

if this 2) was the way it happened
we have a major problem
it would mean something made a whole lot of members of species A give birth to a whole lot new members of species B at the same time
we are told species form due to random mutations
so
it is beyound possibility that the same random mutation took place in a whole lot of different members of species A at the same time

the other alternative is that some intelligence was at work
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Postby mith » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:20 pm

You should examine your assumptions, namely that two species can never mate.
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Re: The Colin Leslie Dean paradox

Postby Zongo » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:09 pm

I expected "The Colin Leslie Dean paradox" to mean that evolution was proven false by his birth. :(

The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters. - Genesis 5:4

On a side note, gamila, has it ever occurred to you that evolution and creationism are not mutually exclusive? Why couldn't God have used evolution to create His creatures?
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Re: The Colin Leslie Dean paradox

Postby alextemplet » Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:47 am

Zongo wrote:On a side note, gamila, has it ever occurred to you that evolution and creationism are not mutually exclusive? Why couldn't God have used evolution to create His creatures?


I've said that sort of thing very often, but everytime I repeat it I am invariably ignored. Apparently, very few people are big fans of logic, as some of the recent threads around here would indicate. :roll:
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Postby biohazard » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:59 am

Though, the words 'logic' and 'god' are mutually exclusive :)
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Postby futurezoologist » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:33 pm

Speciation is not instantaneous.

Now that that's over with how about a joke to wrap up.

Three freshman-engineering students were sitting around talking between classes, when one brought up the question of who designed the human body.
One of the students insisted that the human body must have been designed by an electrical engineer because of the perfection of the nerves and synapses.
Another disagreed, and exclaimed that it had to have been a mechanical engineer who designed the human body. The system of levers and pulleys is ingenious.
"No," the third student said, "you're both wrong. The human body was designed by an architect. Who else but an architect would have put a toxic waste line through a recreation area?"
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Postby gamila » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:58 pm

Speciation is not instantaneous


so who did the first bird mate with
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Postby Zongo » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:26 pm

futurezoologist wrote:Speciation is not instantaneous.
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Postby alextemplet » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:34 am

Nice one, FZ! ;)
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Postby gamila » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:09 am

so who did the first bird mate with
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Re: The Colin Leslie Dean paradox

Postby Zongo » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:19 am

futurezoologist wrote:Speciation is not instantaneous.


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Postby gamila » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:40 am

SIMPLE QUESTION
so who did the first bird mate with
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