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Postby AstusAleator » Sat Jun 27, 2009 9:01 pm

Nice! I think I like your predictions better than mine :).

BUT Here's the thing. This "tampering." Will it be made available to everyone? Or just the ones wealthy enough to achieve it? Will it become standard operating procedure (SOP) kind of like immunizations? Ever seen GATACA? Good movie. Waaaay better than Idiocracy.
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Re: Future Human Evolution

Postby kolean » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:56 am

GATACA was a good movie. The only thing that I remember was it centered on only diagnosing your DNA and not on being able to manipulate the DNA/genome to make the person better. Then again, maybe only the rich could afford such tampering.

Tampering is coming. Whether it is some private company that has no rules or regulations, and can be bought at the right price to do anything, or the public funded research that wants to find cures so that everybody has a chance to be basically healthy. And with everything we do, we will have good things and bad things that come out of it. Hopefully we will celebrate our good, while learning from our mistakes of bad.
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Re: Future Human Evolution

Postby skeptic » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:21 am

To Astus

To answer your question about who gets the 'tampering'.

Of course, initially, it will be restricted. It will be restricted to wealthy nations, and to wealthy people.

However, all new technologies are expensive to start with and drop in price over time. For example : penicillin initially was prohibitively expensive, and took decades before the price and availability dropped to where everyone could use it.

The same will apply to genetic tampering. Given time, everyone will gain access. It may take 100 years - but that is an eye blink in biological and evolutionary time. And the great thing is that it needs to be done only once for any particular trait. That advantageous change is passed down through the following generations.
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Re: Future Human Evolution

Postby AFJ » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:53 am

Didn't Hitler have an idea like this. Then what will happen to the burdensome genetic undesirables, will someone make them slaves, neuter them, or just exterminate them? People like to ignore moral implications in their excitement of the possibilities. Or be naive and deny that anyone would do that.

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Re: Future Human Evolution

Postby skeptic » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:45 am

To AFJ

Not everything that is evil gets practiced. Both the USA and the Soviet Union (and probably Britain, France, Israel etc) developed incredibly nasty biological warfare techniques and never used them.

The flip side of that technology is modern medicine, and that is a boon to all of us. While genetic modification of humans could be twisted into something evil, I do not think it will happen. The worst might be a few idiots who get their children altered in ways that are simply weird. And even that will be discouraged by those in power.

While predictions are hazardous, particularly about the future, I am willing to suggest that over the next 100 years, human genetic modification will be limited to characteristics of clear benefit to the children receiving them. Probably. I think. Of course, the more distant future cannot be predicted. It is out of our hands, anyway. Posterity will decide.
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Postby kolean » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:26 am

Actually, who ever has the money will decide. As it will come from the private sector.
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Postby LeoPol » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:45 am

Here we are, and will become a relic of the new paleotsivilizatsii, like ants, termites, and cells in a multicellular organism:
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Postby Hadidf » Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:18 pm

I think not only enviroment will effect the way people are but also their life styles. In the future fast food could be an even more common meal and that would mean people would be large. Obviously this is not through genetics but it would still effect the way people live and think.
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Re: Future Human Evolution

Postby skeptic » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:11 pm

In the next few decades, obesity will be solved. There are drugs in the pipeline that kill appetite. There is surgery that does the same, and is now safe, much cheaper, and simple, through keyhole techniques.

There is also the strong possibility of taking white fat cells (liposuction), converting them to heat producing brown fat cells, and reintroducing them into the human body. Young people have more brown fat cells than middle aged people, which is a major reason why youth is slim and age is fat. Reintroducing brown fat cells will cause much more fat to be burned.
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Re: Future Human Evolution

Postby mindxman » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:20 pm

It is actually hard enough to imagine what humans will look like after just few hundreds of years !!

Probably physical existence wont be even necessary to retain consciousness, there won't be any more bodies and instead of saying "mind over matter" it is going to be "mind over energy"

Or probably humans will just eliminate them selves before that, maybe at some point they will be aware enough of how meaningless this whole existence is, and then decide to shut it down and let all rest in peace :?
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Re: Future Human Evolution

Postby fiona1985 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:37 am

i believe certain biotechnological innovations as well as genetic engineering brings more disaster than benefit,
all this jeopardize our future lives, now hardly anyone can remember times when it was untouched :)
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Postby WinterImp » Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:11 pm

Regarding genetic engineering and the related social questions, I believe that is likely to be THE ONE BIG political and social issue of this century, comparable to racism in the last century. (Possibly in accompaniment to questions of AI.) Is genetic modification a right or a privilege? What restrictions should be placed upon it? How far can it be taken before the result is no longer considered human? What exactly IS a human being? Can of worms time, but we're not quite there yet obviously.
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