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Identifying an Unkown bacteria.

Postby nadialindsay » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:59 pm

Hi I need help identifying an unknown bacteria.

According to my gram stain I have a gram negative bacteria that are bacillus shaped. However the other test that I have performed suggest that I may have a Gram positive bacteria. The test are as follow:

Catalases Results are negative
Amalyse results are negative
Bacteria does not digest Casine
TSI: Bacterial growth on agar slant the agar was turned yellow/yellow with no bubbles.
SCA: Bacteria did not catablolize citrate
EMB: There was no bacterial growth
MSA: Bacteria turned the media bright yellow.
Pseud Agar F: Clear color colonies on media
VRB: No colony growth on media
MacConky Agar: No colony growth on media.

I need to identify at least the family name. Any help is appreciated.
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Postby mkwaje » Mon May 19, 2008 1:35 pm

I could hazard a guess on this one but then I should be the one to get a grade. You can identify this correctly, with a bit of work, using Bergey's Manual of Determinative Bacteriology. I'm pretty sure your library has this. Its much easier to get your answers from the net from other people but its really more satisfactory if you could just spend a little more time with the Bergey's bible. Good luck!
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Postby Sepals » Sat May 24, 2008 1:17 pm

I advise Cowan and Steel's manual for the identification of medical bacteria. That's what I use.
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Re: Identifying an Unkown bacteria.

Postby Xubu » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:51 pm

why dont you use the Molecular Biology technique in this case? The most accurate method to identify your unknown bacteria is to sequencing its 16S rDNA, i think.
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Postby MrMistery » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:39 pm

That's rRNA, not DNA. And that is really expensive, you know..
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Postby canalon » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:56 pm

MrMistery wrote:That's rRNA, not DNA. And that is really expensive, you know..


No sequencing of the DNA coding for the 16S rRNA. One PCR, and depending of the fragment length 1 or 2 sequencing reaction. Less than 30$ if you do not need to order the primers specifically for that (I assume externalization of sequencing and in lab PCR). So quite cheap in fact.

But I suspect this would problably not help the original poster who was probably trying to figure out the solution to his lab...
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Postby MrMistery » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:23 am

That might be cheap where you live, not everywhere :P
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Postby Nad » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:57 pm

MrMistery wrote:That might be cheap where you live, not everywhere :P


Romania suxs. If a book sells at Amazon with 140 USD, the idiots from Romania inist to sell it with 170 EUR. And so and so and so....
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Postby MrMistery » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:17 pm

Nad, you're from Romania?
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Postby Nad » Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:59 pm

Yes, MrMistery, we share this honor of living in Romania :P
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