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Is this Botany?

Postby chisum1357 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:23 am

First off let me introduce myself, my name is David, Im 23, into too many things to really name them all. I have been interested in plants and flowers for a long time, but let too many things get in my way of studying them, it was actually my 8th grade science teacher that got me into it. Anyways I have really been wanting to get into it, but right now all I can do is study books and online material on the subject, cant go to college just yet. But before I buy books or try to read up on material, I need to know what it is called that Im wanting to learn.

What I am wanting to learn is the study of plants and flowers, but I want to be able to identify them, know how to grow the many different kinds, how to extract them for medicinal and recreational use, how to use them for medicinal and recreational use, which ones to stay away from, etc. I want to learn how to use plants to cure common ailments like digestive problems, headaches, skin rashes, etc., and for the recreational uses, I want to know which ones do things like help concentrate for studying, give energy (like an energy supplement), cause lucid dreams, help sleep and cause hallucinations.

I know the last one sound weird, but I would want the hallucination effect for spiritual type purposes. But I dont like how things like DMT is extracted from the plants, with the use of all the chemicals. I mean for all I know thats actually a normal part of extraction from any plant, I dont really know anything about this type of stuff, except that I want to learn about it all. So if anyone has any info on what it is Im trying to learn, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Postby Jones » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:33 pm

Hello David.
Yes, this is botany. :)
It would be plausable for you to become an herbalist.
Or: A person dedicated to the economic or medicinal use of plants.
Herbalists use their knowledge of plants and their uses in day to day life for the things that you described: Concentration, energy, etc.
I don't know so much about hallucinogens, but I'm sure you could figure it out in basic study.
And I can't imagine it would be very hard to learn to grow and keep the plants as long as they're legal, or even if they aren't.
I hope I helped a little.
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Postby chisum1357 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:32 pm

So it would be best for me to study botany and herbalism? I figured that would be what I would need to do, except I didnt know if what I was describing was herbalism, thank you for the reply, Im glad to finally have someone help me with this question, I have tried other forums and ask on yahoo, and everyone either gave me stupid answers or tried to make me feel stupid for asking, and still wouldnt answer my question. So thank you very much for replying, I appreciate it. Also I was thinking of studying biology, because at a college kind of near by they would allow me to study botany, herbalism, horticulture and biology to get a degree in biology. Does biology play a big role in this type of stuff? And what kind of jobs are there out there for someone with this knowledge, since I posted the question I have been thinking really hard about a career to pursuit and plants really interest me and I think I could make a career out of it if there are good ones out there.

Thanks again for the reply, also does anyone know of any really good informative books I could read, possibly DVDs or websites that have online libraries that would help me out alot, seeing how it is I would be a complete beginner to the subject.
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Postby MichaelXY » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:05 am

At my school; Before you can take botany, you must have completed Bio 100, Zoology, and Molecular Bio. But the catch is that you must have completed an Intro Chem to take Molecular Bio. So there is bit of coursework needed to studying plants. At least at my school which I would think is the same as other schools, most likely some require more prereqs.
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Postby MichaelXY » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:30 am

lol, hallucinogens. Are you by any chance from Berkeley?
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Postby Jones » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:03 pm

Dude, there's not a single question mark in that entire post of yours, how I could I possibly answer a question that doesn't exist?
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Postby MrMistery » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:10 pm

This forum is primarily intended in discussing biological topics, be they in they form of question, opinions, or statements to comment. Regardless of that, there is a question mark in the title of the thread.
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Postby Jones » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:25 pm

So, I didn't answer. I just suggested.
And the title of the Forum Topic is Botany.
So yeah, I'd say that's a question already answered.
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Postby Darwin420 » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:44 pm

"how to use them for medicinal and recreational use"

So really, if we skip the implicature, you want to grow some POT??

Interesting thing, growing cannabis got me into the biological sciences. I was 17 years old at the time.
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Postby AstusAleator » Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:38 am

Hi David, (incidentally my name is David as well, and I'm 24)
I realize this is like a month late, and you might not check these forums anymore. Sounds like you're interested in herbalism and horticulture, which are subsets of botany.
The portions of botany that university scientists and government agencies (whom I work for) mostly deal with are taxonomy, anatomy/physiology, and ecology.
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Postby flynvfae » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:50 pm

definately go study the mangrove trees. you'll be exited.
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Postby monarch » Sun May 25, 2008 9:47 pm

Hi David!
It looks like you should be heading for biology and herbalism, yes, but there is more than that. Biology is a very wide subject. To learn more about how the different medical compounds in a plant work you need organic chemistry and biochemistry. Organic to know how they are built, how to organize them into groups according to their properties and much more. A lab course in organic chem. will also teach you to do extractions and preparations of these compound (maybe not ready for ingestion, but still...). In biochemistry you learn about how different compounds are synthezised and degraded in plants and animals during metabolism.

Courses I would recomend to you are:
Botany (to know how to recognize plants)
Plant physiolgy
Animal/human physiology
Organic chemistry
Biochemistry
Natural product chemistry

To learn about growing, you should take horticulture courses, maybe especially aiming at greenhouse growing too.

There is a lot of herb books out there so you should just start in one place (you will probably end up with a lot of books:-))
"Biology of plants" by Raven is a good place to start.
Chemistry isn't the easiest subject to study by yourself but a good book is "Organic chemistry - a short course" by Heart.
I like the book "Biochemistry" by Mathews.
If you really want to get into how plants work you could look at "Plant biochemistry" by Heldt, but this is more for plant physiologists.

Well, that was the tips I could think of tonight. Good luck!!

(I realise that this reply might be a little late with, but I hope you (or sombody else) will get something out of the answer, anyway.)
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