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Postby genovese » Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:33 am

David george said "I am sorry I called you a theist I apologize.I am sorry man sorry for the pain caused.."

Don't worry yourself, after a few "Mea Culpas" I have been forgiven and allowed back into Atheism.
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Postby charles brough » Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:19 pm

I am amazed that there is this long discussion about "the soul" in a biological forum and an evolution thread!. . . even after you all agree that it is irrelevant to biology, medicine and evolution! To a Fundamentalist, it would be totally relevant, but I have no reason to suspect any of you are escaped red-necks, cajuns, or Florida crackers from the religious forums!

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Postby David George » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:05 pm

"Mea Culpas" what is that genovese
Hey Alex I am damn sure that the Christians destroyed the Egyptians they were the cause for the complete wipe out of the Ancient egyptian people cos they persecuted saying that they worshipped Pagan gods and hence were intolerant to the other people.
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Postby genovese » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:20 pm

The origin of the expression is from a traditional prayer in the Mass of the Roman Catholic Church known as Confiteor (Latin for "I confess"), in which the individual recognizes his or her flaws before God. The "mea culpa," as the Confiteor has come to be known popularly, is not simply a confession of sins, but rather an admission of one's flawed nature and the willingness to make amends for it. copied from Wikipedia.
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:32 am

Charles, I AM Cajun! And damn. proud of it! :evil:
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Postby genovese » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:28 am

"Charles, I AM Cajun!"

Alex, could you, for europeans like me, tell me what a Cajun is? I presume it is an American expression of some sort?
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:38 am

"Cajun" is an English transliteration of the French term "acadien." "L'Acadie" was the French name for Nova Scotia, and the French settlers that lived there were calles "les acadiens." When the British took over Nova Scotia, they forcibly deported the French settlers that were living there. Many of those French settlers went to Louisiana, which was at that time still under French control and called la louisianne. These settlers still referred to themselves as "les acadiens," and they became the predominant culture in the bayous and swamps of south Louisiana. After the US purchased Louisiana, the Americans referred to les acadiens as Cajuns.

I was raised in the Cajun culture, learning Cajun French (a dialect still heavily based on 18th century French) before I learned to speak English. Today, the Cajun culture is rapidly disappearing as young Cajuns abandon their heritage in favor of more "modern" American culture.
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Postby charles brough » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:13 pm

David George wrote:"Mea Culpas" what is that genovese
Hey Alex I am damn sure that the Christians destroyed the Egyptians they were the cause for the complete wipe out of the Ancient egyptian people cos they persecuted saying that they worshipped Pagan gods and hence were intolerant to the other people.


The old Egyptian civilization was by then over 3,000 years old! The people were worshipping some three to four thousand gods! The new religion of Zoaraster and the one of the Jews showed people a more advanced view of the world. Monotheism became "in", the advanced thing to believe in. Christianity was a form of semi-monotheism that appealed to poor people. It spread like fire. People all over the Near East and North Africa took it up. The Romans kept garrisons in Egypt to control its government, but Egypt is a big country and Rome had little influence on the common people of the whole upper Nile!

Besides, the Mesopotamian religion had already died and been replaced by Persian mono or dualtheism. Egypt just followed along with Babylon and the rest.

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Postby charles brough » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:23 pm

alextemplet wrote:I already told you why I think all life has a soul; it simply doesn't make sense to me any other way.

I concede your point as far as medicine having to do with more than just the physical. Surely it can have emotional and mental effects as well, but certainly not spiritual. As the soul is spiritual by definition, it lies outside the reach of medicine.


It seems to me that if you prefer to ALSO believe in "spirits" ("souls") and other such "spiritual" matters AS WELL AS SCIENCE, we would consider that a personal problem you have and refrian from commenting any further. I hope, then, you two can get back to discussing science alone and keep off non-science subject matter! At least, this is what I hope will happen as I am learning things by observing your posts. . .

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Postby David George » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:26 pm

Ok Charles and Alex I saw a documentary in one of the episodes named egyptian journeys in the BBC world.In which they said about how the mighty egyptian civilization came to an end and how it came to an end.I will try my other sources to get more information.
genovese thanks for enlightening me about Mea Culpas :lol: .I was brought up as a protestant so my knowledge about catholics ritual stuff is poor
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:34 pm

charles brough wrote:It seems to me that if you prefer to ALSO believe in "spirits" ("souls") and other such "spiritual" matters AS WELL AS SCIENCE, we would consider that a personal problem you have and refrian from commenting any further. I hope, then, you two can get back to discussing science alone and keep off non-science subject matter! At least, this is what I hope will happen as I am learning things by observing your posts. . .

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So religion is a personal problem and because of it I should refrain from commenting? Charles, I hope someone bans you. All you have done is make a mockery of our normally-intelligent discussion and pissed everyone off. I wouldn't mind as much if there was an ounce of truth or logic to anything you say but there isn't. I was quite enjoying genovese and my discussion before you ruined it with your absurdity.
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Postby charles brough » Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:16 pm

alextemplet wrote: So religion is a personal problem and because of it I should refrain from commenting? Charles, I hope someone bans you. All you have done is make a mockery of our normally-intelligent discussion and pissed everyone off. I wouldn't mind as much if there was an ounce of truth or logic to anything you say but there isn't. I was quite enjoying genovese and my discussion before you ruined it with your absurdity.


I see I have upset you. Please, continue your discussion with the others and I will stay out.
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