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Postby David George » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:34 pm

biohazard wrote:This probably applies to all major religions, but at least Christianity has destroyed dozens of indigenous religions during its often very aggressive desire to consume and nullify all other faiths. If you look at the big picture, it's usually far from chairty.


Yes very true.When it comes to the question of "Charity" i would like to shut up my mouth.
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Postby alextemplet » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:11 pm

I think, among world religions today, the worst one would have to be fundamentalist Islam. I'll take annoying preachers any day over suicide bombers.
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Postby David George » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:39 pm

I don't want to single out any religion.Who knows i may get married to a Islamic Kenyan Arab.But certainly I don't like fundamentalist "any religion".
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:33 pm

Fundamentalist anything is usually a bad thing, but some are worse than others. I think deliberately killing innocents is one of the worst forms of fundamentalism, with all others being lesser evils. To be fair, Christianity does have its share of terrorist groups (northern Ireland, for example), as do atheists and every other religion, but most such organizations identify themselves as Islamic.
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Postby biohazard » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:26 pm

The biggest difference is that Islam is lagging behind a few centuries, nowadays Christians mainly bombard innocents from 30,000 feet or something :)

But yeah, fundamental Islam feels like some kind of hate religion: nowhere else do religious leaders radiate such hatred and malevolence than in some Islamic countries. And since the people are completely brainwashed, they happily blow themselves up to gory bits in hope of a few virgins or whatever they're promised nowadays... (Playstation 3 and a six-pack of Coke or something?)
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:46 pm

I wonder how the term "fundamentalist" came into being to describe extremist religion. Is religion fundamentally an extreme thing? If so, I would think fundies would not be such a minority.
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Postby David George » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:36 am

biohazard wrote:The biggest difference is that Islam is lagging behind a few centuries, nowadays Christians mainly bombard innocents from 30,000 feet or something :)

But yeah, fundamental Islam feels like some kind of hate religion: nowhere else do religious leaders radiate such hatred and malevolence than in some Islamic countries. And since the people are completely brainwashed, they happily blow themselves up to gory bits in hope of a few virgins or whatever they're promised nowadays... (Playstation 3 and a six-pack of Coke or something?)

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Very nice comparison,reminds me of the israel-palestine conflict where Israel has one of the most modern Air Force and Hamas has rockets.
May be if we catch the Islamic terrorists we should spray pig blood and fat on them and make them eat pork so that they never reach "Heaven" :twisted:

alextemplet wrote:I wonder how the term "fundamentalist" came into being to describe extremist religion. Is religion fundamentally an extreme thing? If so, I would think fundies would not be such a minority.


I don't think so.But its not logical to believe that a small minority can be so influential.
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Postby alextemplet » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:09 pm

DavidGeorge wrote:I don't think so.But its not logical to believe that a small minority can be so influential.


Actually it is, for two reasons. One, fundies are a very small minority, and they are very influential. Two, almost everything is decided by the small but vocal minority. Look at politics, for example.

Anyway, I'm still curious as to how the word "fundamentalist" came to describe religious extremism.
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Postby David George » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:18 pm

But its hard for a small group to survive without popular support.....
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Postby alextemplet » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:46 pm

David George wrote:But its hard for a small group to survive without popular support.....


Well let's see, most such groups are very unpopular, and yet they are still in existence, so yes, it is possible for a group to survive without popularity.
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Postby David George » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:20 am

I think they survive because the people are more neutral to issue........not since they unpopular
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Postby alextemplet » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:44 am

It'Its a mix of both, really. Not many people are very passionate about religious issues these days, but almost everyone gets annoyed when the door-to-door missionaries come knocking.
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