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Postby alextemplet » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:17 pm

David George wrote:wow but was that eve by any way of negroid origin.Sure the religious freaks would never agree to that.The Jews who started your religion would feel very insulted of that fact.


Um, no they wouldn't. Everyone already understands that humanity originated in Africa. Nobody's going to be insulted by that.
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Postby David George » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:43 pm

I donot think so Alex a huge number of them cling on to say that the scientific facts are false.I am studying Bio Tech course and still find a huge number of them not accepting evolution[in my class]!!!!!
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:04 am

You're going to find that all over the place. There's all kinds of anti-evolution people out there. I think most of them are just plain misinformed.
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Postby genemachine » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:38 pm

supersport wrote:kclo4x, I'd like to hear your "proofs" evolution.

1) I believe the Bible is true and that Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of mankind. If Jesus Christ died on the cross, then this validates Adam's original sin. If, however, man evolved from worms, then there was never an original "Adam"...thus no original sin that condemned mankind.....this, in turn, invalidates any reason for Jesus to die on the cross.

This is actually a very common fallacy people make when trying to provide a proof for something. An assumption is made that is unproven and on this assumption a proof is provided. This renders the whole argument invalid. Your unproven assumption is: Jesus died on the cross to wash off people's sins originated by Adam.
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Postby kclo4x » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:50 pm

Exactly!

Haha alright well since this thread is way off topic, possibly dead by now? i don't know...

But
if you don't believe in evolution; give 5 reasons why it is impossible and could never happen (ie, the misinterpretation of the laws of thermodynamics)

and if you do believe in evolution; give the 5 best or even one best reason that demonstrates that its correct (ie, Ring species)

Please? :D
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and yeah i totally agree, they assume there is sin, as well, and i personally don't believe in "sin"
i believe there are good or bad choices that have there consequences accordingly
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Postby kotoreru » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:28 am

One of the biggest arguments at University I ever saw was between a muslim girl and a particularly ignorant older lady.

She just couldn't understand why someone who didn't believe in evolution would be on a Biology course. At first neither did I, but then I realised it's not really that simple.

It's just a course, after all, and isn't making true scientists of us any more than school did.
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Postby David George » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:39 pm

kotoreru your absolutely right they just come read get marks[by memorising everything] and get a decent job settle in life.But still a significant number of them in my class said they wanted to be a scientist[mainly girls that really shook me up].But I convinced myself by saying they were big fat liars.
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Postby mith » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:15 pm

http://www.dailymotion.com/merugo/video/5072353

I think Americans have quite a way to go before even thinking about evolution--such as the hurdle of flat earth?
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Postby alextemplet » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:55 pm

The problem with America today is that we're all too busy defending our own personal beliefs and we never bother to examine if those beliefs are true or even logical to begin with. Anti-evolution people are notorious for this, but I find atheists are even worse as far as blind faith and illogical assumptions.
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Postby David George » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:38 pm

ofcourse any atheist is notorious to a theist
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Postby E8-not42 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:06 pm

I always thought a good question to ask is:

Do you feel that you could smarter or better at any one thing than both your parents. Could your child be smarter than you and your spouse?

If the answer is yes, you believe in evolution.
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Postby AstusAleator » Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:13 pm

Eh... there's lots of problems with that.

Intelligence is not necessarily genetically determined, aside from the larger capacity of the human genome to enable it. There is another current thread addressing whether or not our intelligence is evolving, so I won't go too far on the topic here.

For evolution to occur there must be a shift in gene frequencies. These shifts are most commonly explained by natural selection or genetic drift. Your scenario doesn't take into account any sort of selection (aside from the possible assumption that intelligence gives higher fitness) or genetic drift.

You're misrepresenting evolution by posing your question and conclusion, and spreading a common misunderstanding.

It is this line of thinking that causes people to believe that citizens of advanced societies are more highly evolved than those of more primitive societies, which is entirely untrue.
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