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Postby alextemplet » Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:46 am

No, beef is a very safe meat to eat almost raw. One of the many things you learn working in food service.

I'm well aware that the clean and unclean animals are mentioned by name; if you examine it closely, it follows exactly the reasoning I explained.
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby David George » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:27 am

No alex i am quite sure that the beef is "unclean".My uncle who is doctor tells me often i should only eat beef when its nicely cooked because of tapeworms.A doctor working in ethiopia also said that the ethiopians get sick often because they eat raw beef.
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Postby mcar » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:35 am

David George wrote: Anyway why does the Bible say that certain animals are clean and some are unclean.Looks more like the mythologies to me...
And don't tell in the other part of the Bible this was all not considered.

Also in the Bible, we have to watch out of the things coming out of our mouths now (what is more important), instead of what is coming into it. It's practically explained why some animals were declared "unclean" for eating them could cause diseases and the like. In addition to that, when God commanded those things, I noticed how God has to be seen in such a way that His power is in charge of anything, of us. The factor is obedience. We will follow with no questions.

Now about that beef thing, since we can not always ensure how really parasite-free the cattle are, we really have to prepare the beef properly; unless the farm raising the animals follows its strict compliance to maintain sanitation, then maybe you could relax eating a raw beef. In one that I have recently read, even the human gut had evolved in a way that it could also expel the Taenia saginata. What do you think of that?
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Postby alextemplet » Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:27 pm

That must be a regional thing, since I've eaten nearly-raw beef plenty of times with no problems. It's one of very few meats that the health department here doesn't require to be served fully-cooked.

Although to be fair, this is probably irrelevant since in the Mosaic law the Hebrews were forbidden to eat anything that wasn't fully cooked, because they were forbidden to ingest blood.
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby Magnus1 » Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:17 am

What i never understood about creationists and atheists is why can't both camps be true? Its very simple: God created the "rules" by which evolution follows. So, Darwin could be correct and there is still a god. 8)
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby gfrabizi » Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:17 am

Magnus1 wrote:What i never understood about creationists and atheists is why can't both camps be true? Its very simple: God created the "rules" by which evolution follows. So, Darwin could be correct and there is still a god. 8)

well, doesnt Darwin make the statement that God does not exist?
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby David George » Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:05 am

Magnus1 wrote:What i never understood about creationists and atheists is why can't both camps be true? Its very simple: God created the "rules" by which evolution follows. So, Darwin could be correct and there is still a god. 8)


Its the same story again.I don't think there are any rules with evolution.Genetic drift,natural selection,etc,etc are not rules but factors.And it would be no surprise if new factors pop up.Also i donot find any reason for the so called "God" to be involved.And atheists donot need to accept what Darwin said.Besides there are flaws in his theory without doubt.Its like saying all atheists are communists.
And i think that the Modern Synthetic theory of evolution which has much lesser flaws.

And coming to that beef question lets leave that stuff for now.How abt the whole miracle stuff in the Bible???It seems to happen so often in the bible.I ain't seen one in my life........

But more importantly congrats about your Marriage,Alex .But i haven't even got a girl friend given that my age is 18 and i got 2 proposals :mrgreen:
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby alextemplet » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:16 pm

gfrabizi wrote:
Magnus1 wrote:What i never understood about creationists and atheists is why can't both camps be true? Its very simple: God created the "rules" by which evolution follows. So, Darwin could be correct and there is still a god. 8)

well, doesnt Darwin make the statement that God does not exist?


No, Darwin said nothing of the like in any of his books. But in my opinion the issue is pointless. It's not even about science anymore, just religious fanaticism, which I think is totally uncool. And I'm not just talking about the creationists; certain atheists are just as guilty of religious fanaticism and intolerance as anyone else.
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby a1cchrissmith » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:12 am

I believe that all religions on this earth is a form of brain washing the human beings. To prevent mass killings, mass suicides, to keep all humans from feeling alone on this earth, "like before", to prevent mass suicides from people feeling there is no pourpose on this earth. Governments or underground societies have developed whats now called Economies, Trade, Money, and other brainwashing techniques to keep the human mind wanting to learn more and grow more for egotistic reasons. Thats my Belief. :|
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby mcar » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:22 am

a1cchrissmith wrote: Governments or underground societies have developed whats now called Economies, Trade, Money, and other brainwashing techniques to keep the human mind wanting to learn more and grow more for egotistic reasons. Thats my Belief.

We just have to admit that as humans, we always have limitations.
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Postby alextemplet » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:16 pm

Wow, and I thought I was cynical.
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Re: 5 best proofs of evolution

Postby David George » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:36 pm

a1cchrissmith wrote:I believe that all religions on this earth is a form of brain washing the human beings. To prevent mass killings, mass suicides, to keep all humans from feeling alone on this earth, "like before", to prevent mass suicides from people feeling there is no pourpose on this earth. Governments or underground societies have developed whats now called Economies, Trade, Money, and other brainwashing techniques to keep the human mind wanting to learn more and grow more for egotistic reasons. Thats my Belief. :|


I used to have a similar idea before.
But if you are right then it has taken a long and very different path.
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