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God vs Evolution

Postby jeremiah_1990 » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:43 pm

I believe God created the universe and everything in it. And that evolution is an incorrect 'THEORY' made by the human race to neglect God. I want your argument about why you believe that human existence is a freak accident or if we were created for a purpose.
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Postby kotoreru » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:52 pm

Fair enough. Care to elaborate? I assume you did not just create an account here to preach that one thought?
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Postby jeremiah_1990 » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:56 pm

Im just tying to get people to start thinking about what they belive. not what a text book says or their professor
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Postby kotoreru » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:56 pm

Why do you assume that Scientists are atheistic? The best professor I ever had told me to question everything she said...if a professor or textbook is presuming to make one's mind up then they are not worth a light.

Both should simply present the so-far-proven facts and allow their subjects to make up their own mind.

I actually thought Science and Religeons' slandering of the other was very out of date now.

Can one not have Science AND Religeon in their lives?
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Postby Steen » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:07 pm

Furthermore, just because a text book or a professor has given you information, if you chose to accept it as tue, it doesnt mean that you have done it because they have told you - you most probably have taken it to be the most logical explanation available. Personally I sway to the evolutionary side - to me it makes sense. But the idea of a greater being/God does not seem impossible - but its always going to be a highly debated issue isnt it?
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Re: God vs Evolution

Postby mith » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:53 pm

jeremiah_1990 wrote:I want your argument about why you believe that human existence is a freak accident or if we were created for a purpose.


Agent Smith: But, as you well know, appearances can be deceiving, which brings me back to the reason why we're here. We're not here because we're free. We're here because we're not free. There is no escaping reason; no denying purpose. Because as we both know, without purpose, we would not exist.
[Several Agent Smith Clones walk in]
Agent Smith Clone 1: It is purpose that created us.
Agent Smith Clone 2: Purpose that connects us.
Agent Smith Clone 3: Purpose that pulls us.
Agent Smith Clone 4: That guides us.
Agent Smith Clone 5: That drives us.
Agent Smith Clone 6: It is purpose that defines us.
Agent Smith Clone 7: Purpose that binds us.

Wooh!
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Postby kotoreru » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:00 pm

On a logistical note, jeremiah_1990, please stop editing your original post - successive posts do not make sense if they refer to a post that has changed.

For reference sake, this was your original post:

"I believe God created the universe and everything in it. And that evolution is an incorrect 'THEORY' made by the human race to neglect God."
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Postby HopeHasFailed » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:39 pm

in the bible the world is only a few thousand years old, therefore the evindence around us points us in the direction that god in fact, does not exist, now if you want to beleive in god that's fine but i really don't see how your post has anything to do with biology, religion is not what this forum is about. But our fossils prove that your bible, if not your god, is wrongful thinking and needs to be tested and revised.
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Postby kotoreru » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:33 am

No wait, the Bible was never written in English, or even Latin, to begin with. The Bible is all about interpretation.

What you read (in the King James version at least) is a translation from three languages, and a bad one at that [other language versions of the Bible are a translation from English so therefore must be even worse!].

For example, Methusalah lived for approx. 800 years according to the Bible (correct me if I am wrong). This is probably a mistranslation of the lunar and solar cycles. Using the solar cycles, he actually lived for around 70 years - a far more realistic figure.

I really cannot stand the 'us and them' argument. Please, can we just debate in a sensible, and humanistic, manner?

This post is perfectly relevant to Science - Jeremiah_1990 contests the paradigms we work by and therefore it is up to us to defend them.
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Postby alextemplet » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:02 am

Evolution, to me, makes almost perfect sense; God, to me, makes completely perfect sense. I believe both.
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Postby want2know » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:37 am

It seems to me that many seems to believe it is either or, creation or evolution, but not both. But I wonder if they really are exclusive and what their relationship is if any. The basic question I ask; is creation possible without evolution? I guess anything is possible if one believes in creation. Since it is "mystical".

So the better starting point would be, is evolution possible without creation? To try to answer this we have to first understand what it means to evolve. As far as we can tell, everything evolved from simplicity to complexity thus theory of evolution. The beautify of evolution, just like creation, is that just because simplicity has evolved into complexity it doesn't necessarily exterminate everything simple; both the state of complexity and simplicity can coexist in the realm of evolution. But unlike creation, if we only see simplicity around us, which is not the case, we would have to not only reject the theory of evolution but our own existence as complex beings. And if we can only observe complexity around us, which also is not the case, we couldn't have came up with the theory of evolution to begin with. But if one could prove that complexity, which should have come to existence later in the evolution timeline, ALWAYS coexisted with simplicity then we have to reconsider the whole concept of evolution as the exclusive explanation for our existence. With this in mind in our next blog we will try to address what could be the simplest and the most complex state in the world that we live.
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Postby kotoreru » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:55 am

Could you link to the blog that was taken from please?
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